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		<title>Career Advice Tuesday &#8211; The Importance of a Degree</title>
		<link>http://www.infosecleaders.com/2010/08/career-advice-tuesday-the-importance-of-a-degree/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mmurray</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Career Advice Tuesday]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Sirs, Is it possible to get job in computer security without a degree?  I have a CCNA, certifications in ethical hacking and I am  a 2nd year Bsc student. I&#8217;m really interested in the security field, and I&#8217;m wondering what I should do as far as courses or if I even need to finish my degree [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Dear Sirs,</p>
<p>Is it possible to get job in computer security without a degree?  I have a CCNA, certifications in ethical hacking and I am  a 2nd year Bsc student.</em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m really interested in the security field, and I&#8217;m wondering what I should do as far as courses or if I even need to finish my degree before starting my career.</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks,</em></p>
<p><em>Student Ready for Next Challenge</em></p>
<p>Dear Student,</p>
<p>This is one of the hardest questions for us to answer, even though the true answer is simple:</p>
<p><strong><em>It depends.</em></strong></p>
<p>In the IT field in general, and security specifically, there have been a number of people who have been successful without a degree in security (or even without a degree at all).  In the early days of the industry, there largely weren&#8217;t any degree or certification programs, so most people in the industry were without any formal education.  The most common example is Bill Gates &#8211; one would be hard-pressed to say he&#8217;s not successful without a college education. I (Mike) am a good example as well &#8211; my formal education is in Philosophy, and that hasn&#8217;t stopped me from being successful within the security field.</p>
<p>These days, however, many jobs are requiring some sort of degree.  Many entry level security jobs at larger companies are actually looking for a formal degree in some information security related discipline (or at least a degree in computer science).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing &#8211; if you&#8217;re going to be self-motivated, driven to succeed and willing to spend a large amount of time on your own personal branding and investing in other ways to ensure that you can demonstrate a commitment to the field and your own career, then I&#8217;d say that a degree isn&#8217;t necessary.</p>
<p>But realize that you&#8217;re going to be cutting yourself off from many job possibilities, especially early &#8211; you may have to work harder, taking internships and working on visible security projects to replace the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_(economics)" target="_blank">signal</a> that the degree provides to employers early in your career.</p>
<p>And, ultimately, the lack of a degree will limit your career path in other ways &#8211; most high-level executive jobs at big companies require a degree (even a higher-level degree like a Master&#8217;s or Ph.D.).   And if your goal is to work in a different country, often a degree can be a requirement for proving your qualifications for immigration purposes.</p>
<p>In short, like everything in life, having a degree is a tradeoff.  You&#8217;ll have options that you won&#8217;t have without one.  But you&#8217;re going to be trading time for those options.</p>
<p>The question ultimately comes back to you &#8211; what do you really want, where do you want to end up, and what&#8217;s your career plan?</p>
<p>Mike &amp; Lee</p>
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		<title>Money Money Money</title>
		<link>http://www.infosecleaders.com/2010/07/money-money-money/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mmurray</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Compensation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Security Industry]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[As many of you know, Lee and I spent a bunch of time earlier this year doing a survey on compensation in information security.  We had a few hundred responses to the survey, and the data is quite cool. The survey results are up and available here.  Simply input your email address and they&#8217;ll be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many of you know, Lee and I spent a bunch of time earlier this year doing a survey on compensation in information security.  We had a few hundred responses to the survey, and the data is quite cool.</p>
<p>The survey results are up and <a href="http://www.infosecleaders.com/2010-compensation-survey/">available here</a>.  Simply input your email address and they&#8217;ll be sent to you shortly.</p>
<p>The results have the answers to some fascinating questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How many of us think we&#8217;re worth more than the average IT professional just because we&#8217;re in security?</li>
<li>How many of us think money is the most important thing?</li>
<li>Is there a benefit that you value almost as much as saving your job?</li>
<li>How much money would it likely take to divert you from your career path?</li>
<li>Is the economy affecting our salaries and bonuses?</li>
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<p>The <a href="http://www.infosecleaders.com/2010-compensation-survey/">results</a> are definitely an interesting read.</p>
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